"Band" is out of the circle all summer, so does the chain of contempt for music really exist?

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'Band' is out of the circle all summer, so does the chain of contempt for music really exist? - Lujuba

Last week, "Summer of the Band" ended. As a result, in the past week’s fans’ surprise, perseverance, attention, and anticipation, the show completed the first official announcement of the tour, the first pre-sale ticket was sold out in 1 minute, the second official announcement of the tour, and the first offline theme. The event official announced...Just after this weekend, the second season of "Summer of the Band" was officially launched! That's right, the "band" went out in the summer, the band became popular, the performances increased, and the flow of musicians increased... The "niche" rock music that used to be performed in the livehouse is now hot, and recently rock fans are worryingly "precaution" The "invasion" of the rice circle culture...So, it is time to discuss: Does the music chain of contempt exist? Tickets for the

tour are all in seconds, and the number of fans for the new pants breaks one million. In ten years,

, the "band" has gone from food and clothing to "out of the circle"

has become famous in this season of "The Summer of the Band". The drummer Shi Lu once famously said: " All programmers across the country are Zijian’s colleagues because he always changes jobs.” Why? Because he had to ask for leave as soon as he performed, and the programmer was notoriously busy. This time he recorded "Le Xia", Zijian had to resign because the company did not allow leave... This also shows that domestic bands are at least in this Survival before summer: Most musicians must be part-time bands. Penicillin’s bassist Xiong Hua also works at an Internet company; "Jiulian Real Man" works as a teacher in a small town; CLICK15 said that before the show, they had a monthly income of 1,000 yuan, and their biggest wish is to support themselves by music... even the last The champion new pants band, they have works, talents and qualifications, but the lead singer Peng Lei has also done animation, advertised, and even wanted to go to work in an agency company to save agency fees... The new pants and admiration of the champions and runners-up are all circles. Senior bands with the highest internal and external recognition, but they all said that they cost one or two hundred yuan for a performance for a long time. Even before participating in the show, New Pants had only 40,000 Weibo fans! So Peng Lei repeatedly ridiculed "Ma Dong promised that our fans can exceed one million", so "Did the new pants break one million fans today?" became a popular stalk of netizens during the show. Fortunately, Ma Dong did not break his promise. The show went viral, and the fans of the new pants quickly broke a million. Now fans of bands such as Admiration, The Hedgehog, and Tour Group have all exceeded one million!

'Band' is out of the circle all summer, so does the chain of contempt for music really exist? - Lujuba

Not only that, but the schedules of popular bands participating in the show are almost bursting. Except for the tour of the show, the first three bands now have double-digit music festival invitations; there is a steady stream of invitations to music works from brands or events; The band received a commercial cooperation and was on the cover of a fashion magazine; then there were programs such as "Let's Band Together" and "Chinese Band" to focus on the band... "Band" finally became popular! New programmers may not be able to be colleagues with Zijian, because the musicians of popular bands finally no longer have to work part-time. It is reported that recently, many bands of "Le Xia" have doubled their value in the festival fee. It is reported that Hedgehog’s performance fee has increased by about 10 times.

"Le Xia" from the start of Douban with 7 points to the end of 8.7 points, "Band" finally came out in the summer! But in fact, the change in the ecology of this group is of course not something that can be achieved overnight. In the program, Peng Lei repeatedly complained about "sting" Modern Sky CEO Shen Lihui recently broke the news that a friend suddenly transferred him 10,000 yuan, "Let me transfer to Peng Lei, it’s not easy for him. I said, do you know how much money he makes in a year?" He admitted that many new bands were previously worthless, but the starting point of several old bands is already very high. According to him, new pants The performance fee for bands of this level reached 400,000 before. Someone calculated the accounts. The new trousers may earn 10 million yuan each year from the performance of the music festival.

, ​​the lead singer of the second-hand rose band who recently participated in "Round Table Pie", also corroborated this statement from the side. He admitted that the band’s living conditions were not good before, "Before 2008, most bands had no money in their income. , The music festival only has Midi". The turning point occurred after the blowout of the 2008 music festival. "The number of music festivals from one to hundreds has changed the industry and the destiny of the band. From 2008 to the present, we have performed from 20,000 to 40,000, and 80,000. To 100,000, 15, 200,000..." In other words, it took almost 10 years for the "band" to go from food and clothing to "out of the circle".

Rock music fans are worried about the cultural invasion of the rice circle. Does the contempt chain of

music really exist?

Liang Long mentioned in the "Round Table Pie": The program group had tried to invite second-hand roses to participate, including Ma Dong himself.Long talked about it, but he thought it was just an ordinary variety show, so he refused. Peng Lei, including the new pants, also said that he did not want to participate at the beginning. In the show, he revealed that he wanted to invite the "Right to Reshape Idol" band to perform and was rejected...Many senior bands have a general view of the judging-based "variety show". Natural rejection. In the show, Zhang Yadong once said with emotion "Band, do you know how difficult it is to serve them?" In fact, rock music itself is a highly personalized cultural circle. The "Le Xia" program became popular, and it touched on "music contempt" more than once. The problem of "chain"-just as there is a chain of contempt for watching a show, it is said that there is a chain of contempt for listening to music: roughly classical despise jazz, jazz despise electronic music, electronic music despise rock and roll, and folk music despise folk songs. , Do you think rap is a song when popular...

has a program with the theme of adapting the works of other musicians. Among them, the works of Faye Wong, Park Shu, and Fan Xiaoxuan are preferred by the band, but the hedgehog, penicillin, etc. The band directly or euphemistically expressed the idea of ​​not wanting to adapt Zhang Jie's work. Probably in the eyes of the band, Zhang Jie's songs are mostly pure pop songs, but should pop songs be despised? At that time, it also caused dissatisfaction among some Zhang Jie fans. During the collaboration between the

Hedgehog and the folk-song "Ssi and Fan", Lao Lang served as a guest. He said that this collaboration is "quite rock and roll." "Folk and rock have a so-called contempt chain. I think music understands each other. Harmony is a very high state." Previously, the well-known "Lu Xiansen" received not high scores and evaluations in the program. In the end, they attributed their early stopping to the "music contempt chain" in the circle, because they are partial folk songs and Popular, Zhang Yadong also said frankly: "In the circle of producers, some people may think that folk songs are soil." Gao Xiaosong, who wrote folk songs on the spot, said with emotion: "There are no rules for what kind of music you write, and there is no so-called chain of contempt. There are particularly good in each type, and there are also ‘smelly shit’".

and Liang Long participated in the same issue of "Round Table School" and Zhang Yadong. The host Dou Wentao talked about the issue of "chain of contempt." Zhang Yadong, who has an authority in the circle, said with emotion: "In fact, music aesthetics changes with age, but in fact, chords , Music notes and music style do not carry your emotions, that is what you forcibly give him. The so-called contempt, the so-called who is superior to others, isn’t it just a little sound vibration? If you like it, listen, don’t like it but still have to respect". But he does not mean that the "classical music" at the highest level of the so-called "contempt chain" is indeed advanced to a certain extent, and nowadays pop music and "network divine comedy" have a simplistic trend, "although classical music is being created At that time, it was also popular music at that time, and some of them were relatively fierce. For example, Beethoven was equivalent to rock music at that time. However, classical music still differs in various aspects such as creation method and length. Nowadays, pop songs are only three minutes long. Half of it is repetitive. And now there are many people who write so short that they have to live to death, so don’t live to write symphonies."...

"chain of contempt" originates from "superiority",

In addition, the local "band" in Jiangsu "What is the status quo?

In fact, the so-called contempt chain stems from a certain sense of superiority. For example, many fans want their idols to be recognized, but the idols are really popular, but they can’t hide them. For example, some music fans don’t want a niche singer to become popular. Special red, because everyone likes it, he can't show his taste and superiority. After "Le Xia" became popular, many rock music fans worried that "indie music would be eroded by the rice circle culture", so they spontaneously published the environment of popular science indie music and rock scene knowledge, hoping to maintain the original order, everyone pays attention to the music itself instead of using the rice circle. A set of excessive idolization and flow of musicians, is this kind of fan behavior feasible and useful? It remains to be seen for now, but just like the younger Click15 lead singer Ricky doesn’t think there is too much difference between his new fans and old fans, and there should be no clear boundaries between fans and music fans, because the singer is very handsome. Or it’s not a big problem to pay attention to a band with personality. As for the ability to appreciate music, he also feels that music is not distinguished, and it’s always right to get in touch and cultivate slowly. The "summer" of the band

is here, how about the local Jiangsu band? The reporter interviewed Chen Hanhan, the head of the "Flying Orchestra", the only professional pop orchestra in Jiangsu Province. He did not agree with the "contempt chain" statement. "Opera is advanced. It is good to like opera, but not everyone Know how to appreciate, if you like to listen to popular songs, no problemThe main reason is that there must be a diversified and diversified music genre for everyone to choose.” He is deeply touched by the fact that “Le Xia” has promoted the survival of the entire band. “Although it has not spread to all the bands in the country so fast, but This is a silent phenomenon of moisturizing things. In the previous seasons of "The Voice of China" and "Singer", the audience only paid attention to which singer or which song from the beginning, and slowly began to realize that the live performance of the band is completely different, and the effect of good equipment is so great...So everyone Gradually, there are aesthetic requirements for singing live, behind-the-scenes production, etc.".

Chen Hanhan expresses that the development of the band is indeed not easy. The Feiyang Orchestra was established in 2007. In the past 12 years, his most heartache is the departure of several members. "Many times it is reality. The problem is that going to a music training institution to be a teacher is more profitable than a band. I have no reason to stop it." He said that more audiences and platforms will pay attention to the changes in the entire ecology in all directions. "First of all, the hardware. Including good equipment, musical instruments, and the most important software: band members, only if more young people are willing to come to play in the team, this group will have more and more talents. In addition, the platform and performance opportunities are too important. You can never sing in the rehearsal room."

Yangzi Evening News/Yangyan reporter Zhang Yan

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