The deified "Joker" can't make DC beat Marvel

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Whether it is word of mouth, profit or sociality, "Joker" is not absent. Therefore, expectations and rumors about "Joker 2" continue. Earlier, director Todd Phillips had bluntly stated that "Joker" would not have a sequel, but the public is obviously not giving up.

Yesterday, the well-known media "Hollywood Report" (hereinafter referred to as THR) said: Todd Phillips intends to operate "Joker 2", and after discussions with Warner executives, the project is already in operation, starring Jacques Phoenix and screenwriter Phillips+Scott Silver will return.

The deified 'Joker' can't make DC beat Marvel - Lujuba

However, only a few hours later, another equally well-known media deadline released a report that was completely different from THR: Currently, "Joker 2" has no actual progress, and THR said "Phillips will develop more DC character origin movies". That meeting with Warner's top leaders did not exist at all. Warner and DC have not publicly responded to the completely opposite views of the two parties.

The deified 'Joker' can't make DC beat Marvel - Lujuba

But judging from the attributes of "Joker", whether there is a sequel or not, it will not have much impact on the DC movie universe. As Phillips said, ""Joker" has always been an independent movie. It will not join the DC movie universe, nor will it become the first work in the so-called Joker series. We made this movie and sold it. To Warner, it only exists in its own world. "

To a certain extent, the light of "Joker" and DC have a sense of separation.

The deified 'Joker' can't make DC beat Marvel - Lujuba

character blessing, art online

"Joker" is no doubt good, but it has to be said that a large part of its goodness stems from the charm of the role of the clown, followed by the artistic level.

has consistently ranked first among the TOP100 comic villain characters voted by the US media throughout the year. His real name and life experience are still a mystery. The clown played by Heath Ledger in the dark trilogy of "Batman" is considered the most deeply rooted madman, with crazy pace, neurotic laughter, and alive like Satan from hell.

Jacques Phoenix portrayed in "Joker" is to thoroughly see through the world, choose the clown before the fall. He is more like an ordinary person who is enslaved by life, despised by the world, tortured by mental illness, and passively headed for destruction. As a result, he became more sympathetic and provocative, and became the leader of the criminals who responded with all kinds of responses.

The clown is not actually a person, but a logic, a principle, and a social symbol. What is really fanatical is not his gothic anti-mainstream appearance, but the violent way he symbolizes the weak Earn self dignity and social imagination.

At the end of "Batman: The Dark Knight", the Joker said, "Crazy is like gravity. It only needs a slight push." ​​Everyone has a dark side in his heart, and everyone may become the one that pushes the dark side of others. hand. A typical anti-social lunatic is always full of charm. Anyone who has been wrapped in negative emotions can hardly say no to the clown.

cast aside the charm of the clown role and return to the film itself. Apart from Phoenix's performance, "Joker" is the most impressive rendering of the environment and the shaping of the opposite.

takes the environment as an example. There is very little language in the movie, and the background music is mostly low cello sound, set off the dark and sad atmosphere. The overall color is green and the style is dark. In addition to creating an atmosphere with the scene, it also adjusts to the psychological changes of the characters. For example, before the clown was completely transformed, the pictures of his mother appeared in warm colors, but after the transformation, the violent and bloody pictures turned into warm colors. At the end of

, the scene where the clown armed with a gun pays tribute to Martin Scorsese's "Taxi Driver", which just shows that the attempt to artisticize commercial films is endless.

did not reach the peak of DC, and it is difficult to promote the follow-up development

"Joker" is very good, but it failed to reach the peak of DC. From the perspective of style, Nolan’s "Dark Trilogy" is the first gem; from the perspective of anarchist thinking, anti-social heroes lead to change, there is James McTeague's "V for Vendetta".

personally believes that although there are clowns, the movie "Joker" is more reminiscent of "V for Vendetta".

"V for Vendetta" is based on a science fiction comic of the same name written by Alan Moore and David Lloyd. Tells a story about freedom, democracy, brainwashing and transforming the people, independenceThe story of the decree The scene is set in the future London-a dystopian society.

Guy Fawkes is a historical figure in the 17th century England. He participated in the "Gunpowder Conspiracy" because of his dissatisfaction with the British imperial rule and was executed for treason. The protagonist V in the film is a mysterious figure wearing a Guy Fox mask, a freedom fighter who tries to create social and political changes while secretly promoting fierce private revenge. At the end of the

film, the extreme dictatorship was destroyed by extreme violence. "The people should not be afraid of their government, and the government should be afraid of its people."

If we say, "Joker" is "We live in despair, so we go hand in hand. "Destroy", then, "V for Vendetta" is "Although we are deep in the mire, there are still people looking up at the stars." The same is violence against violence, the latter's defense of freedom, democracy, equality and other rights touches the soul It can breed warmth even more.

From the perspective of style, the principle that Marvel movies has always run through is that evil does not suppress justice. Superheroes work together to defeat evil forces, protect world peace, and become more cheerful and commercial.

DC is always struggling between darkness and ease. Some works such as "Joker" and "Watchmen" explore the self-recognition and resistance of characters, and other works blindly cater to the audience, such as "Thunder! Shazam, "Suicide Squad". Even if the dark artistic attempt of "Joker" is successful, it is difficult for DC to shift its creative style to "Joker" after being determined, because Warner's goal is clear: the market cannot completely let go.

Furthermore, step back ten thousand steps, even if "Joker" will have a sequel, it will not join the DC movie universe. If the THR report is true, Phillips may be more pleasantly surprised to develop the story line of the origin of other superheroes than forcing "Joker" into a "Joker Universe".

DC 7 in three years vs. Marvel and 14 in four years

Putting down the glory of "Joker", in the future, can DC beat Marvel? Judging from the current list of films released by both parties, it is difficult.

Warner Bros. and DC Films will have seven films scheduled for 2022, two films scheduled for 2020, three films scheduled for 2021, and two films scheduled for 2022.

The two 2020 titles are "Birds of Prey" and "Wonder Woman 2." The Raptor Squad is a superhero team under DC, and all members are women. Founded by Batgirl, Huntress and Black Canary, the main activity is in Gotham City. Earlier, DC had stated that this is not a personal film of Harley Quinn, but the female super-British group portrait is still full of gimmicks.

Two years ago, "Wonder Woman" once saved the low-minded DC. Although movies about female superheroes are already common in the market, the return of "Wonder Woman 2" is still worth looking forward to. The three times

in 2021 are "Batman", "Suicide Squad 2" and "Black Adam" after the restart.

"Batman" is played by Robert Pattinson as Batman and Zoe Kravitz as Catwoman. At present, some audiences have doubts about the casting. The director of "Suicide Squad 2" is directed by James Gunn, who has directed the first two parts of "Guardians of the Galaxy". Marvel's wind encounters the DC wind, which is either a surprise or a shock. Black Adam is the super villain of DC Comics, starring Dawn Johnson, whose IP popularity is far less than that of "Joker".

In 2022, "Super Pets" and "Aquaman 2" will be released respectively. The former is an anime movie starring the pets of Justice League members; the latter will continue to be directed by Wen Ziren. In addition, the derivative film of "Aquaman", "The Sea King" "Also under development.

In contrast, Marvel is more aggressive. Currently, the release dates and specific movies have been made public, including "Black Widow" released on May 1, 2020, "Eternal Clan" released on November 6, 2020, "Shang Qi" released on February 12, 2021, "Doctor Strange 2" released on May 7, 2021, "Spider-Man 3" released on July 16, 2021, "Thor 4" released on November 5, 2021, and "Released on May 6, 2022" Black Panther 2. No matter which one, there is huge market potential.

In addition, Marvel also stated that there will be 7 films that will be released from February 18, 2022 to November 3, 2023.The films that Marvel has decided to develop but have not yet finalized include "Ant-Man 3", "Captain Marvel 2", "Guardians of the Galaxy 3", "New Blade Warrior" and "New Fantastic Four".

As of now, the global box office of this year's movies with a global box office of over one billion US dollars include "Toy Story 4", "The Lion King", "Captain Marvel", "Avengers 4: Endgame", "Aladdin", "Spiderman" : Heroes' Expedition and "Joker". Marvel's super-English films are all in it, and DC only has one "Joker".

From the box office alone, DC wants to be ahead of Marvel, but there is still a long way to go.

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