He Bing: Lu Zilin is very simple, he pretends to be complicated

has accumulated a deep accumulation and developed into a major adult artist. In "White Deer Plain", he played "He Shi Zilin"

reporter Yu Chijiang

Character profile: born in Beijing in 1968, graduated from the Central Academy of Drama in 1991, twice in 1999 and 2004 Won the Drama Plum Blossom Award. Representative stage plays include "Birdman", "Wotou Guild Hall", "Sorrow of Comedy", etc., and representative film and television dramas include "Empty Mirror", "Twelve Citizens", etc. In May 2017, the TV series "White Deer Plain" starring him hit the air.

The reporters contacted He Bing two years ago and just called him himself. This year is different. A reporter from "Universal People" sent him a text message for an interview, and he replied: "Okay! I'll make arrangements." Then he sent the contact information of the propaganda staff over-right here Not long ago, he signed a brokerage company and had his own publicity team. "In the past, we participated in this line as a single fight, but now we have become a team. These years, it has changed." The last sentence reveals a strong Beijing flavor and a strong drama accent.

He Bing was born, went to school and worked, all in Beijing. In him, Beijingers can speak vividly. He sat down in front of the reporter, with his left foot on his right leg, and the beginning of the show with the phrase "Did you know?" He crackled and talked about the new play "White Deer Plain" for 20 minutes without interruption. The creation of

is hard, but hard work is not the creation of

Beijinger He Bing recently played the role, is Lu Zilin from northern Shaanxi. Eleven years ago, He Bing's unit, Beijing People's Art Theatre (Beijing People's Art for short) also had a drama version of "Bai Lu Yuan". At that time, He Bing volunteered to play Lu Zilin, but director Lin Zhaohua considered that he and Bai Jiaxuan's actor Pu Cunxin had a large age gap. If they didn't match, he would not be used. In that version of "White Deer Plain", the actor who played Lu Zilin was Guo Da.

"Have you communicated with Mr. Guo Da before filming this movie?"

"No. I don't think it is necessary to discuss before the performance. One person's understanding is one's understanding, especially in artistic creation, I will say one Immature viewpoints may be subjective. Art is not objective. I have come to this crew, and I will play Lu Zilin. What is the name of this character this time, and whoever will play it in the future is a matter of others."

in Chen In the faithful original book, Lu Zilin is not a pleasing character, snobby, shrewd, treacherous, a typical villain image. When He Bing was young, he read the original work and saw the hatefulness of this man; after a few years, he read again and read the pitifulness of the hateful man; in May 2015, the TV series "White Deer Plain" started filming and he acted In the ingredients, Lu Zilin has some cuteness.

"Where is this person cute? He is very simple, he pretends to be complicated. He especially likes material things, and he likes to get rich. He doesn't think there is a second way in life. But he is embarrassed. When he comes out, he always hides. Obviously it is self-interest, and he has to say that he is a public affairs; he obviously doesn't believe in Bai Jiaxuan, but he has to believe and half unbelief, and half of his own interests are perfunctory. He is cute. But. His life has been a whole life, and a whole life of bad luck, and finally realized that "buying a house and selling a house is just a small thing", without spiritual beliefs, without the principles of adherence, has become the wall of the age of blindly vassal. That will be pitiful in the end." Another lovely thing about the character of

is that he is a character with some comedy potential. He Bing said that in the "White Deer Plain" with perfect script and text, the actors no longer need and cannot have extra freedom to play. His only deliberate design is "always trying to find ways to give Lu Zilin a suitable scene, Add a comedy element to the appropriate plot." There are two reasons for this. One is to create a sharp contrast with other characters. "Others are not good at acting comedy? Lu Zilin can. Without Lu Zilin's chicken thief, then Bai Jiaxuan's tall and tall can not be targeted." The second is to make the audience feel comfortable. "The audience finds it interesting and lively. If we can think about it, our acting goal will be achieved." One month before

started, He Bing had already experienced life in Bailuyuan. My daily routine is to do farm work, eat local food, and observe the work and rest of the fellow villagers. "It looks relaxed on the surface, but in fact it is under a lot of psychological pressure." He seldom participated in the chat with fellow villagers, and more often sat and watched. He feels that for actors, observation is more important than communication. "At the time of communication, you will enter the conversation system. Your objectiveness and calmness may be gone, and there will be less capture."

"Observation is to build confidence. When the characteristics of the people of northern Shaanxi are in your heart, when you show it to the outside, it seems to have been immersed. This immersion makes you feel that you are 100% of the people of northern Shaanxi. With this confidence, it’s enough to go on stage.” Not long after starting, He Bing got up from his chair and walked towards the camera one day. He suddenly felt like "I'm coming", "Very relaxed, very free." , Then it's time to be confident.

"White Deer Plain" was filmed for a total of 8 months. As a big drama, it was delivered on time, "and the quality is not bad." When it comes to the problems of rushing to work and rushing to live in some TV dramas, He Bing believes that these are all reasons for insufficient preparations. "There is no group of people who want to shoot a scene because they want to shoot it quickly, and shoot it a lot." He said, "I always say that everything should be solved by drinking tea in the room and smoking a cigarette. No way! Everyone had to go to the scene to light up the lights and boil the oil, hungry and blowing the wind. The last few months of filming were anxious. The actors also felt that the scene had no prospects, and there must be a problem in the end."

He took the movie released the year before last. For example, "Twelve Citizens", the film is adapted from the classic American film "Twelve Angry Men," which tells a court argument triggered by the murder of the rich second generation. He Bing plays a prosecutor. "We found a hotel and 12 actors gathered around to imitate the scene. After about two weeks of lines, all the problems were solved in these two weeks. When filming started, the camera was turned on at ninety o'clock every day, four or five in the afternoon. The clock is over, and the effect is not bad."

"Now people always secretly change the concept, that is, to make hard work. Creating is hard, but hard is not creating. The script is not so good, the life is not so uniform. Preliminary preparations are not sufficient, and shooting for 18 hours a day is nothing."

always maintains awe of performance

He Bing has a catch phrase, love to say "our line".

"Our business is just like a war. Once the war starts, we will do it our own way."

"Our business has this characteristic. The group stage results will not be brought into the semi-finals. This time the show is OK. Next time we can change it. "

" "In our business, we still have more discounts and less success."

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He is proud of being a member of the "business". When

was eight or nine years old, he realized for the first time that he was going to be an actor. At that time, there was no Spring Festival Gala. During the New Year, people watched the "New Year Gala" organized by the Shanghai Film Actors Troupe. He Bing was guarding the 12-inch black-and-white TV at home, watching Sun Daolin and Zhao Dan wearing suits, playing the piano and singing foreign songs on the screen. He was extremely envious. "My God, I didn't know what the performance was at that time, but I yearned for their romantic lifestyle very much."

But romance is the winner, the loser, and the successful person is called romance. Unsuccessful is hypocritical. He Bing was afraid that it would be a joke to say it too early, and he never revealed his careful thoughts to others. During the college entrance examination, he applied for the Central Academy of Drama. He lied to his family, borrowed 5 yuan from his aunt, rode his car, skipped class, and left.

It was in 1987 when Beijing Renyi set up a "Human Arts Class" at the Central Academy of Drama for the first time, and the lineup of examiners was unprecedentedly strong. In the small theater on the top floor of the Drama Academy, the curtain closed tightly, and dozens of "old men" and "old ladies" sat below the stage. He Bing just stood on the stage, and the candidates around him all said that he had a dry mouth, had a cold, and had an itchy throat. He kept walking around with a grim expression. He secretly opened the curtain and took a look. He was frightened. All the leading actors of "Tea House" came—so he sat in the middle, with Xu Xiaozhong, the dean of the Drama Academy, speaking with him. He Bing thought, this is Wang Lifa! At that moment, he felt the actor's style. When

was in college, He Bing saw him again. It was in the rehearsal hall on the third floor of Renyi, who watched the master's performance up close as a student in the "Human Arts Class". "That time was the drama "Taiping Lake" row, we were sitting on the ground in front, closer to the stage than the seats of the first row of actors." He saw Lao She, who played by Sozhi, come on stage, dragging a cane, holding hands upside down. The lines came slowly.

"As soon as I could see his face clearly, I heard a low cry from behind. Looking back, it was either Lu Zhong or Jin Zhao. Anyway, it was an old aunt who couldn't cry." Someone said something on the spot. "Oh, Mr. Lao She's soul is back!" He Bing remembered the scene still fresh. At that moment, he felt the charm of the actor.

Romance, style, and charm constitute He Bing’s expectation for the career of an actor, but he did not expect it to be long afterward.Waiting. After graduating from Chinese opera in 1991, He Bing has been on the bench in Renyi for many years. In those years, he went to the theater to watch plays without having anything to do, read books when he had no play, and once saw the story of Lawrence Oliver (a famous British director and actor who won an Oscar for Best Actor in the movie "Hamlet"). Before he became famous, Oliver led the troupe to perform "Hamlet". After Hamlet's death, he lay there and fell asleep when he was too tired. In his confusion, Oliver heard someone say: "This actor is really bad, and the dead are not good at acting." At that time, he realized that if the actor is not involved and enjoys himself, he cannot infect the audience, and the audience will not buy it. This story has a great influence on He Bing.

was in the humanities at the time, so he was a leader and stopped acting. "He said that an insider became a leader and became two outsiders." Lin Liankun is the pillar that really lifts up humanity. "As soon as we young people see Mr. Lin, we stand up immediately. "The Dog's Nirvana", "The First Floor of the World" and "Birdman" are all plays that make us look stupid." 1993 Renyi rehearsal drama "Birdman" "He Bing played a small role called "Huang Mao" in it, which lasted less than 7 minutes. "But I witnessed the greatest rehearsal in my mind." At that time, Lin Liankun entered the group one month late, and he had been replaced by others before, "But when he came on stage, he not only lost his money, but the effect was as if he had been rehearsing with us. And San Ye (in the play played by Lin Liankun) The protagonist, who is a fancier), he sang in a decent way. The director (i.e. Lin Zhaohua) heard it from ear to ear—I learned later that Mr. Lin didn’t know a sentence in Beijing opera before, and even the tone was not complete.” Where is

While sitting on the bench and running the dragon, his classmates Xu Fan, Hu Jun, and Chen Xiaoyi have become popular. He often thought of Lin Liankun to comfort himself: Mr. Lin only played the protagonist at the age of 47, and he is not a positive figure (in "Neighbors Left" Villain), or become a master of the generation, why am I worried? !

In June 2009, "Birdman" was re-run. The director was still Lin Zhaohua, but Lin Liankun was no longer able to act. He Bing was promoted to lead the role, taking over the role of idol and becoming the new "San Ye". "Don't dare to act," he said, "I couldn't push and push again, and finally I got the courage." More than a month later, the new version of "Birdman" premiered and there was a crowd.

So far, many drama fans still have strong feelings for Beijing Renyi-kindness, respect and admiration. He Bing also often thinks about why human beings can become a cultural label? There are probably three reasons: one is that “Ren Yi always has its own set of performance system, Beijing accent, Beijing rhyme”; second, no matter what the play, Ren Yi insists on expressing it in words that the Chinese "understand", and they have performed many times. Foreign dramas, but from translation to performance, are completely localized; the third is that actors in human art always maintain awe of performance and humble professionalism. Pu Cunxin, Song Dandan, He Bing, these big names, no matter how famous they are abroad and how high their salaries are, they return to Renyi without assistants, no high prices, and they rehearse honestly. "We usually complain about the world and others, saying that the salary is too low. What is the purpose of performing so many? But when we get to the rehearsal hall, everything is lost." Attitude, on the stage, only play idiots remain-this is the person who regards acting as his bounden duty.

He Bing said that he still did not dare to watch his film and television series because he felt "no way". "I always feel like I'm average, maybe the heroes I have established are too high, just like those old artists of Beijing People's Art, Mr. Yu, Mr. Lin, Mr. Zhu Xu... But obviously, I have not reached that state yet. "

" I also have material desires, but my ability to resist it is getting stronger and stronger. "

director Xu Ang and He Bing have collaborated many times. The most famous are the drama "Sorrow of Comedy" and the movie "Twelve Citizens". The former broke 10 million box office in 2011, setting a record in the history of Beijing Renyi for more than 60 years. "During rehearsal, the show was 1 hour and 55 minutes, and the official performance was 2 hours and 15 minutes. The audience was laughing for 20 minutes. We are waiting." Xu Ang commented on He Bing: "Bing Ge is very simple, but there is fear in his heart. His simplicity and fear are wrapped in a particularly strong view of things. Outsiders seem to be very clear, but in fact, he may not be completely inside."

He Bing responded: "He is very accurate." Where does

fear come from? Coming? Because he was the one with the worst grades in the key class in high school; because he was "poor-looking" among the handsome and beautiful girls in the drama; and because he had watched his friends become popular and silently envied him, even if he was calm and icy, Can't stand it. "To be honest, I am not so persistent, don't call myself so great, I also have desires for material things. When I was young, I often filmed for money. The prices are so expensive. You have to live, buy a house, and then marry a wife. "He and his wife were at the same table in junior high school. In 1999, the two met again 20 years after graduation. After three meals, she said to him: "Will you marry me?" ! He Bing said, "Okay. "The two made a marriage contract. The host Jin Xing called it "the unique freedom of dating in Beijing", but He Bing said with a smile: "You deserve it, and you don't have any money." "

At that time, he had already gained some fame on the stage of human art, and he had more opportunities after playing Feng Xiaogang's "Party A and Party B" in 1996. "At that time, I was in a state of mind that I particularly wanted to be entrusted with a heavy responsibility. I hope the audience can recognize me and the stage can accept me. "In 2001, He Bing starred in the TV series "Empty Mirror". This series shows the changes in Beijing city by telling the love story and life trajectory of a pair of sisters. It is known as one of the most representative TV series in China in the past 30 years. 1. He Bing plays the husband of his younger sister, Sun Yan, vividly interpreting a man’s petty and suspiciousness. Director Yang Yazhou praised his performance in the play as "it can be said to be recorded in the history of Chinese TV dramas."

, but used to this kind of performance He Bing also wanted to break through this image limitation for a small clever and cunning character in the market. In 2005, he took over the CCTV drama "The Great Song Mentioning Criminal". Unexpectedly, he became a hit, and the ratings once exceeded the "News." "Hookup" is probably the TV series with the highest rebroadcast rate other than "Bright Sword" on CCTV, and has become the collective memory of a large number of "post-90s". Now He Bing has much more barrage on video sites such as Acfun and Bilibili than his peers. , To a large extent depends on Mr. Song Ci, who is so upright that he can no longer be upright.

"I never claim to say how determined I am in art, but as I grow older, as I can eat, My ability to resist material desire is getting stronger. If the script is particularly bad, if you really give money, I won't go. Because this is a profession that I love very much, if it becomes a business, I really can't accept it. "So in the past two years, He Bing's output has not been high because he cherishes his feathers. "I judge the role, and the simplest thing is whether my performance is interesting. If I can't do anything about this, then I will suffer, why bother? "

, he challenged the play. As for what a "good play" is, in He Bing's judgment, there is only one criterion. "A good play only faces one thing, that is, people, hearts and desires. People are nothing more than these contradictions: contradictions with society, contradictions with others, the most important thing is our contradiction with ourselves, and this is the most unreasonable thing. "

He Bing also dreamed of being a director, "I know that I have to wait." So at the moment, acting well is the best reward. Choosing "The Twelve Citizens" and "White Deer Plain" are all for this reason.

Ho Bing talked about a story when he starred in "Wotou Guild Hall" in 2009. This play tells the absurd thing in a courtyard house on the eve of the liberation of Beiping. At the end of a performance, He Bing smashed out the wine bottle in his hand and fell to the ground. As a result, the wine bottle was broken, and a big mouth was made in his hand. "The whole sleeve was soaked with blood, Sister Dan Dan is about to come out to help me. "But he stood up, sat on the stage and continued to speak without distractions, and said for three minutes. After the play, he returned home after the bandage, and he thought to himself: That was really the three minutes of a human play, because there is no ability to do it anymore. Going to be clever. I played the same play again the next day, but I never lost the state of yesterday.

He said: That kind of feeling, I really want to experience it again!