Interview | Han Li: The Methodology of Changing Faces of Otaku, Druglord, Communist, and "Familiar Face" Actor

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"Report to the Chief of Staff, the Eighth Route Army is assembled."

"Back, back." In the distance,

was filled with smoke and aftershocks. The dark clouds outside the sky rolled, and the cloud heads darkly covered the rising sun that hit the sky. Nearby, Gao Xiaoshan slanted to the ground, struggling to support his seriously injured body, and shouted at Wei Dahe with all his strength.

The standing figure turned and left, the half-lying body smiling. Hundreds of soldiers were silent, and it seemed that in an instant, a kind of unspeakable sadness and great pain escaped from the world. For a long time, my eyes closed.

This is a passage on Weibo, Douban and other major social platforms that has made countless viewers cry and sad. It is also another turning point in the development of the historical war drama "Heshan" since the broadcast. Since then, Gao Xiaoshan went offline, and the red blood continued to be passed on. In addition to the audience, there is also the actor Han Li, who is also immersed in sadness. “Tonight’s game was too difficult and too tragic. I’m sorry I can’t fight with you anymore. I am honored to be able to play this flesh and blood character, thank Gao Xiaoshan, and goodbye Gao Xiaoshan.” After Gao Xiaoshan’s sacrifice, Han Li said on Weibo. Say.

Han Li

In fact, this is not the first time that Han Li has portrayed such a moving character. Since his debut for more than ten years, he has presented many "familiar people" to the audience including urban, costume, spy warfare, age and many other types. However, even with rich acting experience, it is not easy for Han Li to play Gao Xiaoshan this time. The difficulty of Gao Xiaoshan's "standable" is that he faces complicated relationships between characters.

At the end of "Heshan", the film and television interviewed Han Li, the actor of Gao Xiaoshan, and chatted with him about his interesting experiences during filming, his in-depth analysis of the role of Gao Xiaoshan, and his personal experience in the actor industry. Taste and unique understanding of performance. When

met for the first time and entered the inner world of "Gao Xiaoshan"

was "excited and perturbed". When he received an invitation from the director of "Heshan" Wang Xinjun, Han Li's new film "The Architect" has just finished. Talking about the mood at that time, He was full of emotion. "I was still trapped in the emotions of the previous drama and did not come out, so I received the invitation of "Heshan". The first moment I got the script, I felt that it was due to fate."

was determined to play the role of Gao Xiaoshan. It only took one afternoon. Especially, this role comes from a historical war drama he has never tried. "As soon as I met, the director took me to talk about the layout of "Heshan", and then showed me the scene map and the background modeling hatched by the art based on the map. I was particularly fascinated by it."

Touching, "love at first sight" is due to fate. After an afternoon of communication, Wang Xinjun and Qin Hailu bluntly stated that Han Li was the best candidate for Gao Xiaoshan. After a quick glance at the script, Han Li found that Gao Xiaoshan's role was challenging and full of freshness. He made a decision without hesitation. In Han Li's view, the fit for him to shape Gao Xiaoshan also happened to come from the trust of Wang Xinjun and Qin Hailu in him. "This is the touch of the actor."

Gao Xiaoshan is not good at acting. After reading the script, Han Li suddenly fell into a twofold dilemma. One of the difficulties of

is that as a member of the Communist Party, Gao Xiaoshan needs to be just and awe-inspiring. The second difficulty lies in the fact that the characters in the play come from different backgrounds and their relationships are complicated. He has to go from side to side in the inter-play. He has to show different attitudes towards everyone, and he has to stick to the beliefs of the proletariat.

These difficulties made Han Li work more passionately. He used words like "intoxicated" to express his mood at the time. In his opinion, if you want to play Gao Xiaoshan well, you have to find a way of interpretation that belongs to "then".

"At that time" is the keynote of the creation of period dramas. The reason why the "anti-Japanese drama" flourished a few years ago is that the main creative team did not understand the true meaning of that era. In order to better understand the characters and the background, Han Li did his homework seriously. "I watched a lot of works that show the history of the War of Resistance against Japan, TV dramas, movies, domestic and foreign, forcibly bringing myself into that period of history and into Gao Xiaoshan's life." The more difficult it is, the more free it is. With Han Li's in-depth study and thinking about the script of "Heshan", he was completely moved by the image of Gao Xiaoshan, commander of the Eighth Route Army. Based on the background of the script, he privately enriched the dark lines of the story-the family of Gao Xiaoshanwhat? When and why did you join the army? How did you act before joining the army? With a pen, he wrote a biography of more than 10,000 characters.

"My setting for Gao Xiaoshan is that his father is a folk doctor. His father cured the sick and saved people. The young Xiaoshan admired his father. Over time, he also had the idea of ​​helping others. After receiving new ideas, his father asked Gao Xiaoshan to study in the county. Gao Xiaoshan’s family was killed and both his parents died. Under the guidance of an old Red Army, he embarked on a journey to join the army.”

It is precisely because of Han Li’s intentions that Gao Xiaoshan’s role was accepted by the audience. Gao Xiaoshan’s So many tears were shed before offline. Han Li told reporters that the more he plays in the later stages, the more he reads the script, the more he will be attracted by Gao Xiaoshan's character charm and fall in love with him more and more. During that period of shooting, he was deeply involved in the scene, “When I put on that military uniform and stood in the scene of the shooting location, I felt that I had already passed through that era.”

Soul of Gao Xiaoshan: Planning the overall situation

However, Even though he made a lot of preparations in the early stage and designed a little bit of the situation, most of Han Li's arrangements have not been realized after the actual start-up. In his words, "I never thought that the shooting of period dramas would be so difficult."

After Gao Xiaoshan's sacrifice, Cuigu was alone, arousing heated discussions among the audience. Many drama fans believe that there is a lack of a final farewell between Gao Xiaoshan and Cuigu-Gao Xiaoshan came off the assembly line in a hurry, and he could not even say goodbye to his lover. He understood the audience's thoughts, "However, when we were watching the play, we felt that this place was blank and the taste was sufficient." Han Li smiled.

Several emotional scenes with Cuigu make Gao Xiaoshan's image more three-dimensional. In Han Li's eyes, the screenwriter's Gao Xiaoshan is already a perfect character for "Gao Daquan". How to interpret this "Gao Daquan" in different ways? Han Li also used his brain. He told reporters, "Then look for the other side of this role."

Heroes lack feelings. Gao Xiaoshan is dull and even "cowardly" when facing love. So, what we saw was the Gao Xiaoshan who couldn't let go of the stubborn kang, and the Gao Xiaoshan who didn't say anything to the beautiful woman and was afraid of being emotional, and even more so that he did not give in to the righteousness and righteousness of the outside world. Gao Xiaoshan who knows how to pretend but dare not touch. Once

decides to be "responsible", Gao Xiaoshan's actions are surprisingly funny again. Regardless of the three or seven twenty-one, directly rushing to confess the marriage proposal, even more pouring out the charm of this role. In Gao Xiaoshan's words and deeds, Han Li's own understanding of love is integrated.

"I think the feelings of that era were very sincere and honest. For example, in the scene of leaving eggs, everyone had no food to eat, but people gave you their own eggs. This really touched the softest part of my heart. Use now In other words, this is true love.” In addition to the emotional drama with Cuigu, the relationship between

and Wei Dahe is "love and killing", which is also the charm of "Heshan". At the beginning of the

story, Wei Dahe, the commander of the Shaanxi Army, was captured by Gao Xiaoshan, the commander of the Eighth Route Army. Under a simple dialogue, the conflict between the two was hidden. As the cooperation between the Kuomintang and the Communist Party progressed, the two turned from enemies to allies, and became more sympathetic to each other. Gao Xiaoshan's "nothing owes each other" when he rescued Dahe at Snow Mountain is based on this premise.

"This is the most difficult part of Gao Xiaoshan's performance. The early stage of the plot is an internal struggle, and it cannot be overstated. However, with the pressure of the Japanese invaders, the independent column was established for peace, unity, and development. In the base area, Gao Xiaoshan must change the sharp character in the early stage. It is mainly based on ideological education and concerted efforts, to survive in the cracks." If we say that the emotional drama between Gao Xiaoshan and Cuigu, this proletarian "landed" lightly. Then, the vertical and horizontal games with representatives of factions such as Wei Dahe, Liu Buzhun, Li Hanqiao, Fan Chengzhang, etc., have firmly established the image of this outstanding Communist Party member.

In addition, Han Li also smiled and gave his own explanation for "Gao Xiaoshan will always be righteous and strict" that some viewers disputed. In his view, this is the Communists of that period, "strategizing, taking into account the overall situation."

"Gao Xiaoshan's preaching has a very important meaning. This is a product of that special period. You will find from the beginning to the end that he is lonely. He represents the image of a communist and must not retreat. Therefore, he must have justice in his bones. Of course. Looking back now, I often wonder if there is a better way of performance. I hope I can play better next time."

, ​​step by step, implement the "performing syllogism"

"For an actor, it is actually not easy to be able to play a role that he really likes", even if he has been in the industry for many years, he can meet the role he likes. , Still making him feel excited. "Your love for the character will become the motivation for you to play him well. This is very rare. It is even said that you will be immersed in the play for a long time and will not be able to get out."

is still micro Boshang misses Gao Xiaoshan in general, and once played a good role, it will be "difficult to play." Before

entered the "River Mountain", he was deeply troubled by the fact that he could not get out of Wen Xin, the returned Singaporean architect in the literary film "The Architect". "The Architect" is quite depressing, and Wenxin's return journey is even more difficult. Han Li, who has been in the role for a long time, had something to return to Beijing from Taizhou. As soon as he got off the plane, a gloomy feeling enveloped him. It was not until he "escaped" back to Taizhou that he gradually disappeared.

's "no madness, no survival" performance posture is derived from Han Li Guanxing's "performance syllogism". At first,

had to look for roles, with the help of scripts, materials, and preliminary preparations, to construct a rational framework to portray the shadows in the audience. Secondly, we must become a character. From the rhythm and change of the work, we look for the growth and change of the character in the story, causing a perceptual explosion on the scene, and putting the emotional soul into the character. In the end, he left the role and walked out.

However, although it is easy now, for Han Li, this is actually a difficult process.

In 2008, Han Li starred in the role of Tang Yajun in the fashion drama "Ugly Invincible" and officially entered the show business circle. For him who had just walked out of school, his state at that time was the most suitable to play Tang Yajun. In his opinion, Tang Yajun needs a lot of external performances, rich and exaggerated. Some of the latter roles, like Gao Xiaoshan, have to be more restrained and perform more deeply.

With the enrichment of performance experience, Han Li also slowly started subtraction. He believes that deliberately using skills to design characters and filling in too many things can easily make the characters collapse. After

participated in "The Architect", Han Li's "performance methodology" was improved again. This time, it is not only the growth of the body and the heart. In order to find the complicated emotions after Wen Xin returned to the country, he shut himself in the room, suppressed himself, and wrote a long biography. "I don't force myself to write anything, I just use my way to express the character's heart," Han Li said sincerely, "just at that moment of sway, I thoroughly understood everything about him."

After "River and Mountain" was completed, Han Li turned and plunged into the world of the anti-drug drama "Hunter". In this unfinished drama involving the case, he became an important villain in the Golden Triangle deal-a drug maker. "I found the feeling of Breaking Bad", the villain with this new experience, made Han Li quite excited.

Abandoning the process of carefully crafting characters in the crew, Han Li in daily life prefers a relaxed way of leisure. During the interview, he smiled and told reporters more than once that he had a fulfilling life when he was not filming, such as reading books and exercising every day, and he had boxed for a while before. "Life is the most important thing."

Regarding the role he wants to play in the future, Han Li said that he would not pick a role. He looks forward to participating in different types of works, and he is interested in trying those he has not tried before, and he is also interested in thinking about how to make different interpretations for similar roles he has played before. However, after the performance of "Heshan", he has a new understanding of the image of soldiers, so he is quite interested in the main theme of the military.

"I feel that every image is worthy of doing my best to present. The character gave you his life, how can you live up to it?"

passed "Gao Xiaoshan" this time, and Han Li gained more audience's love. We look forward to his performance road going wider and wider, bringing more and better roles to the audience on large and small screens.