Since the 2022 " Talk Show Conference 5", the talk show that has been dormant for almost two years has finally come back, and there are two at once. They are iQiyi's "King of Comedy·Stand-up Season" (hereinafter referred to as "Stand-up Season") and Tencent Video's " Talk Show and His Friends " (hereinafter referred to as "Talk Friends").
For many viewers who like talk shows, regardless of the program, the point is that talk shows are back.
"The King of Comedy·Stand-up Season" and "Talk Show and His Friends" posters
The theme of this season of "Talk Show and His Friends" is "Troubles in life, talk about them with talk shows", which concisely and comprehensively explains the significance of talk shows to the audience . Troubles and stress in life are inevitable. Talk shows present these problems in a humorous way, allowing the audience to temporarily forget their troubles and achieve emotional release through laughter. At the same time, talk shows can help viewers examine their own troubles from different angles. Sometimes, if you look at problems from another angle, your troubles may no longer be troubles.
Therefore, the audience needs talk shows, they need it to bring instant happiness and relaxation, they also need it to accompany us to face the challenges in life with a more positive and optimistic attitude, and to release emotions, reduce stress and enhance understanding through humor. The lineup of the two programs of
can be regarded as two parts of " Talk Show Conference ".
"Talk Show Friends" continues the genes of "Talk Show Conference". A large part of the team behind "Talk Show" comes from "Talk Show Conference"; Zhang Shaogang , Da Zhang Wei , Zhang Yuqi and Lu Yu are also old friends of "Talk Show Conference"; some of the "Talk Show Conference" Old players such as Hulan, Xu Zhisheng, He Guangzhi, Yan Yiyanyue, Tong Monan, Cheng Lu, and Niaoniao are all still there, although Tong Monan, Cheng Lu, and Niaoniao have completely changed their identities as screenwriters ; The recording atmosphere, color tone and colorful characters of the entire program are also the flavor of "Talk Show Conference".
A member of the "Laughing Friends Group" of "Friends"
Although Stephen Chow is the convener of iQiyi's "Stand-up Season", Stephen Chow is not currently involved in the recording of the show. In fact, Stephen Chow has no relationship with the talk show. It's so big, and the relationship is a bit "cut and dry". "Stand-up Season" is mainly supported by a group of behind-the-scenes creators and veteran contestants who came out of "Talk Show Conference", such as the "comedy friends" Wang Jianguo, Zhou Qimo, Pang Bo , and Yang Li (their alter egos) The "Four Demon Kings" who will not be eliminated have actually become "Demon Kings"); many contestants participating in "Stand-up Season" have also participated in "Talk Show Conference" before, including Xiaolu, Black Lantern, Tang Xiangyu, etc.
They are in another program and will not be eliminated at last.
It is a good thing that two programs compete at the same time, although the "dispersion" itself is still a bit embarrassing. Closer to home, competition in the same period inevitably involves comparison. Who will you vote for?
From the perspective of the competition system, "Friends Off" is controversial.
Talk show contestants participating in the competition first need to choose to enter different "laughing circles" based on their self-positioning, which are specifically divided into "hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha"hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. The three laughter circles correspond to different promotion difficulties and promotion rates.
Laughing Circle, the promotion rate is greater than or equal to 50%, suitable for confident and strong players. Old players such as Hulan and Xu Zhisheng basically choose this circle; the Funny Circle has a promotion rate of 50%, suitable for those who are not above or below the level of self-consciousness; Smile Circle The promotion rate is only 30%, and it mainly brings together newcomers.
The elimination rates of the three circles are different.
The laughter circle and the funny circle both have a 1v1 wheat grabbing competition. If there is no wheat grabbing, you will be automatically promoted. If you lose the pk, you will be eliminated directly. If there are multiple groups of players who have not competed, the last promotion spot will start the wheel battle. model.
's cruel competition system can certainly increase the intensity of the competition, but it directly causes two negative effects. First, the laughter circle may lead to the "solidification of the class" of players - old players are more likely to stay, and new players are more likely to be eliminated.If an old player performs at a high level, the audience will have no objections. Once an old player falls short of expectations, the audience will not let go of the opportunity to complain - his speech is obviously mediocre, why is no one challenging him?
Some contestants were eliminated with 175 votes, and some contestants were eliminated with 166 votes and no one challenged them.
In addition, the wheel battle is very unfair to the contestants who came last. Yan Yi and Yan Yue were directly eliminated.
Second, 1v1 elimination is too easy to cause the strong to PK the strong, and eventually a strong will be eliminated, and the weak will PK the weak, and finally a weak will be promoted. As expected, many such tragedies have been staged in the funny circle. For example, the foreigner Harry spoke very well, but he had no choice but to eliminate him because his opponent was stronger.
If a strong player PKs, he has to eliminate a strong one.
Although the opening process of "Stand-Up Season" is relatively boring, in terms of the competition system, it is more friendly to newcomers. The first stage of
adopts a camp rush competition system. Players form four camps with their comedy friends who want to form a team. Players can choose a fierce 1v1v1v1 showdown between camps. The top two will advance and the last two will enter the danger zone. Players can also directly challenge the "Four Demon Kings". If the challenge is successful, they will be promoted directly. If the challenge fails, they will enter the danger zone.
Compared with 1v1, 1v1v1v1 can advance from four to two. It has a high probability that it can avoid the situation where the strong PK the strong and the strong are unfortunately eliminated, and the weak PK the weak and the weak advance by luck. It is more likely that the strong will advance together and the weak will be eliminated together; Moreover, the losing player enters the danger zone, which means there is still a chance for a comeback. In this way, it can not only avoid accidentally hurting the strong ones, but also help the newcomers to get ahead.
1v1v1v1 Four into two is a more reasonable pk method
Of course, talk shows ultimately have to rely on the quality of talk show performances to speak for themselves. Both shows of
have contestants with that kind of atmosphere. Fu Hang in "Stand-Up Season" and Haha Cao in "Friends Off" were both very popular on the spot and scored very high. But looking at the Weibo Square, there are a lot of people who can’t get it.
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Looking purely from the text, we really can’t see anything too surprising, but some talk show performances are live, relying on the actors’ improvisation, interaction with the audience, and the unique charm of the live atmosphere. When watching live, the laughter and reactions among the audience will be contagious, forming a collective experience and enhancing the pleasure of watching. This experience is difficult to have when watching in front of a screen. So, whether you like this kind of live performance is a matter of opinion.
For most talk show performances, text is the most critical.
What does a good talk show text look like? In fact, we can still go back to the theme sentence "Troubles in life, use talk shows to talk about", or in Xu Zheng's words, it is "realistic".
Good talk shows usually revolve around common worries in daily life, such as leaving home, work pressure, interpersonal relationships, family chores, etc. Talk show actors often tell real stories and feelings based on their own experiences or observed phenomena, which are close to public life and can easily arouse resonance.
Some talk shows are not limited to personal experiences, but can also observe and comment on social phenomena, put forward views on the current situation through humorous language, and trigger the audience to think about certain social issues.
Although the talk show discusses the troubles in life, the talk show expresses it in a humorous way, which not only allows the audience to find resonance in laughter, but also cleverly provides a new perspective on the problem, allowing people to gain spiritual comfort in a relaxed and happy atmosphere. Solace and release.
If we use this standard to measure text quality, the overall performance of the veteran contestants of "Stand-up Season" and "Friends" who have become famous, have hard-to-get tickets for offline performances, and have many variety shows, is lower than expected. .
The first issue (Part 1) of "Friends Off" is mainly about old contestants in the laughter circle. It has both emotional points and topicality, and the strength of the veteran players is also there - not much different. It's a pity that it's not much better.
One is the use of "inside jokes" by veteran contestants - this shortcoming also exists among the veteran contestants of "Stand-Up Season". Inside memes are based on common experiences between actors or buzzwords in a specific circle. They are relatively simple to create and sometimes do not even require actual creation. Just mentioning a certain keyword or event can trigger laughter in a specific audience. This kind of creation is lazy.
He Guangzhi
So, when the comic contestant of "Friends Off" saw He Guangzhi talking about the internal story with Xu Zhisheng again, he used the word "angry".
The more fatal problem is that most of the "life worries" of veteran players are no longer the worries of ordinary people. Or in their texts, observations about daily life are already very scarce.
Although there were no talk shows last year, Xu Zhisheng, Pang Bo and others also appeared in variety shows. After they become famous, they will have more opportunities and resources to participate in various activities and social occasions. It may not be so easy to capture the details of ordinary people's lives and emotional experiences. The jokes they write "It's too cold to be in high places" are not that easy. funny.
veteran players also have the problem of path dependence, relying on past successful experiences and models instead of exploring new perspectives and themes, which will also limit their creative atmosphere. At least three of the veteran contestants of "Friends Off" talked about fitness (is this one of the few channels through which they get in touch with life?). There are still relatively few veteran players like Jia Huo (although he is an old player, but not famous) who break out of his comfort zone, delve deep into offline fields, and surpass himself.
Jia Hua has made progress
The old contestants of the two programs also expressed a common expression, which is the situation of the talk show last year. Yes, it was difficult for everyone last year. The veteran players who have become famous find it difficult for themselves, but isn’t it more difficult for the players who have not yet made their mark? Famous contestants can at least make a good living through various side jobs, but unfamous grassroots talk show contestants have suffered a real impact. Jiang Zihao's "odd job employment" is very sad.
The survival of grassroots talk show actors is really difficult
The audience is willing to sympathize with the situation of talk shows, but if the texts of veteran contestants rely heavily on this kind of "survival after disaster" expression, will it also be a kind of monotony and a kind of convenience? "Brave"? Are those physical worries of life also blocked?
In the first issue (Part 1) of "Friends", the newcomer in the laugh circle is a big star; in the first issue (Part 2), when the newcomer in the laugh circle appears, some ordinary people's worries are added. The watchability has improved, and the overall performance of female talk show actors such as Ya Fei (also a veteran contestant), Shan He, and Zhang Hui is surprising.
Big national player
The first episode of "Stand-up Season" has more new contestants appearing. The expressions of the outstanding new contestants are quite consistent with the concept of "telling the troubles of life through talk shows". They are all specific and close-to-life observations and experiences. They use a unique perspective and humorous way to describe daily trivial matters. Common troubles such as work pressure and interpersonal relationships are transformed into light and humorous jokes, allowing the audience to feel resonance and release through laughter.
For example, Big Pharaoh’s dilemma of whether to have a big city bed or a small city house, the lack of freedom for women to eat, Ronaldinho’s plight of Party B social animals, Liu Rencheng’s growth process as a little man who left his hometown for his dream... Some texts are not so perfect, and the technology is not so proficient, but It talks about the troubles of little people, which is very down-to-earth and makes people feel sad and laugh at the same time.
Liu Renchen
Any comedy variety show is afraid of the phenomenon of "class solidification" and "talent gap". I hope that the old players will not say "finally back", but their energy has not returned at all; the old players should also stop clinging to each other and complimenting each other. This is more embarrassing than internal jokes. It is not that whoever has more offline performances is better. , life is the source of talk shows; and "Friends" eliminated many that should not have been eliminated - I hope there is a chance of resurrection, and don't make the program that is already losing talent worse.
finally wants to say that although I have complaints about the two programs, I must follow them. I am still very happy that the talk show is back!
